Interestingly, Christ, in response to the question of how many times a man should forgive his brother, responded by saying, “until seventy times seven,” which is the exact amount of time in Daniel’s seventy weeks.
This work was the fourth article I ever wrote on the subject of Bible prophecy. It was one of a series of twelve pieces written for the church I was pastoring, to explaining the direction taken by my studies in the Bible. All were published before I knew about the Internet, and long before I was aware of the doctrines of preterism. As far as I knew at the time of writing, I was the only person to ever see the Bible in this way. Looking back, it seems incredible that a 23-year-old would have such conviction to persevere so completely alone.
Though written in a period still overshadowed by futurism and preterism (I was the pastor of a premillennial dispensationalist church at the time), there are a number of proto-idealist elements mixed in. This was a benefit of being alone with the Holy Spirit on these things, in that I was not bound to any system but that which was revealed by the Word Himself.
Among the elements of preterist idealism presented, there are three key concepts which clearly removed me from the dispensationalist camp:
- Jesus Christ is identified as Israel in the Bible
- God’s Chosen People are those in union with Jesus Christ
- Calvary was the historical focal point of the apocalyptic prophecies relating to the Seventy Weeks, which was then manifested openly in AD70
Though I would change the wording on a few things, I still stand by the gist of the presentation of Calvary as fulfillment de jure (“the time has come” Mark 1:15) with AD70 representing fulfillment de facto (although I do, of course, believe that the seventy weeks prophecy represents so very much more than can be represented by mere historical events – no matter how dark and violent they may be). Calvary must always remain in the preeminent position, lest one be tempted to think that a later manifestation is the actual consummation. If that were the case, then there would truly be no fulfillment until the death of the individual! As I now know, the consummated plans of redemption and damnation were settled before they were ever put into visible display in the garden.
The Seventy Weeks of Daniel
By Todd Dennis
In Daniel, chapter nine, the angel Gabriel told Daniel that there were “seventy weeks” determined upon the people of Israel as a nation. Verse 26 shows that the completion of this seventy week period would specifically bring the destruction of the city and the sanctuary of Jerusalem. Christ, in describing the sinfulness of the Jewish leaders in Matthew 23, closed by saying that upon that generation would come all of the righteous blood shed since Abel’s.These two prophecies are directly related to one another. Christ, also in a display of the judgment that would come upon the nation, told them, “behold, your house is left unto you desolate.” This is the same language that is used in Daniel chapter nine referring to the completion of the seventy weeks.
In fulfillment of the prophecies of Daniel chapter nine, and the prophecies of Jesus Christ, the judgment of God came upon that unprofitable nation in the seven year war, highlighted by the destruction of Jerusalem. This was when the city of Jerusalem was besieged and utterly destroyed, left so desolate that only hyenas are said to have lived within its walls. This is the very judgment which was promised for disobedience in Leviticus 26, Deut. 28, I Kings 9, II Chron. 7, and many other places. Matthew 24 and Luke 21 date this destruction as clearly being the desolation of the entire Jewish nation from A.D. 66-73, with the destruction of Jerusalem at the three and one-half year point.
A reference of Matthew 24:15 with Luke’s account links the destruction of Jerusalem as occurring when that generation would see the city surrounded by an army: Mat.24:15-16, “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judea flee unto the mountains.” Using the same command for the people in Judea to flee, Christ says, in Luke 21:20, “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed about with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” And to clearly identify what the purpose for the desolation is; verse 22, “For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.”
Keep in mind that the seventy weeks were determined upon “thy people and thy holy city”, and that by the end of the seventy weeks, the city and the sanctuary would be destroyed. This was fulfilled in A.D. 70. We are not waiting for a temple to be rebuilt today, simply so that it can be destroyed, as it has already happened! Also, by the end of this period, the ‘sacrifice and the oblation’ (Dan 9:27) were to cease. This, too, was accomplished in A.D. 70. We are not waiting today for the sacrifices to start again, simply so that they can stop, as this has already happened! In further confirmation, Daniel 9:24 lists six specific things that would be accomplished by the end of this period, all of which have been fulfilled. In confirmation of the fulfillment, it reads, “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to:”
1. “To finish the transgression,”
– This was fulfilled. (Luke 11:47-51 ; Matt 23:29-32; Matt 21:33-45)
2. “Make an end of sins,”
– This was fulfilled. (John 1:29; Matt 1:21; Acts 10:43; Hebrews 9:14,26; 10:12, 11:3)
3. “Make reconciliation for iniquity,”
– This was fulfilled. (Romans 5:8,10; II Cor 5:18-21; Hebrews 2:17; Col 1:12-20)
4. “Bring in everlasting righteousness,”
– This was fulfilled. (Romans 3:25,26; Romans 14:17 (Isa. 51:8) ; Hebrews 9:12; II Thess 2:16; II Cor. 1:30; 9:9)
5. “Seal up vision and prophecy,”
– This was fulfilled. (Isaiah 6:9,10; Matthew 13:14,15; John 12:39-41; Acts 28:25-27; Hebrews 1:1-2; John 1:1; II Peter 1:19-21)
6. “Anoint the most holy (or holy place).”
– This was fulfilled. (Matthew 3:15-17; Luke 4:18; Acts 4:26,27; 10:38; Hebrews 9:22-24)
[2017: Note that all of these verses are looking back to Calvary for fulfillment… not forward to AD70. Score six for “AD 30 Preterism”]
Interestingly, Christ, in response to the question of how many times a man should forgive his brother, responded by saying, “until seventy times seven,” which is the exact amount of time in Daniel’s seventy weeks. The implication being that there was an end to Christ’s patience with His nation. Christ fulfilled the covenant that they broke well over 490 ‘times’. That is not necessarily to say that Christ was saying after ‘seventy sevens’ we should not forgive, but that, simply, “seventy weeks (were) determined upon (Daniel’s) people.”
Therefore, we can see that the desolation of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 fulfilled the prophecies of Daniel chapter nine, against the perverse generation that rejected the Lord and his Anointed. Christ judged the nation with desolation, and took away the kingdom of God and gave it to a nation bringing forth fruits (Matthew 21:43), which is the nation of believers. The “days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled” spoken of can be no other than the fulfillment of Daniel’s seventy weeks with the Desolation of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Therefore, the desolation of Palestine in A.D. 66-73 was the fulfillment of Daniel’s 70th week, and the end of any temporal ‘Nation of God’.
Daniel 9:24 shows that a new spiritual economy will be in existence at the completion of this time period. We have already identified this as being the ‘New Covenant’ of Jesus Christ, which was but a fulfillment of the Old Covenant of promise. The only way the goals of the seventy weeks can be accomplished is through judgment, and that not only upon a national scale, but a personal. There is no finishing of transgressions, end of sin, or reconciliation for iniquity without personal judgment. Jesus Christ declares, in John 10:39, “For judgment am I come into the world.” Hebrews 9:22 reads, “And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.” This includes transgression and sin. Put in other words, there is no reconciliation for iniquity, end of sins or righteousness without the judgment of the shedding of blood. The born-again believer possesses these traits, but only AFTER He places his sin upon Christ for judgment! Jesus Christ was judged for our sins, on an individual basis. This necessity of judgment is true for ‘Israel after the flesh’ as well, if Daniel 9:24 is going to accomplish what it says it is. Therefore, the seventy weeks of Daniel closes with the ending of the ‘Old’ Covenant (Heb 8:13 – Christ confirmed the covenant), and the national relationship between God and ‘Israel after the flesh’, ushering in the personal relationship with Jesus Christ, for there is “no other name under heaven that is given whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). It cannot be referring to a national relationship, for we know that salvation is only on a personal basis.
On the national scale, Israel ‘after the flesh’ was told in Exodus 23, Leviticus 26, Deut. 28, Joshua 7, and I Kings 9 (among others) that if they obeyed God, he would give them temporal peace, but if they disobeyed, he would destroy their city and their sanctuary, and that he would use other nations to do so. II Chronicles 7:19-21 specifies the destruction of the city and the sanctuary as specific signs of God’s judgment. Therefore, ANY destruction of “the city and the sanctuary”, by themselves or others, including that spoken of in Daniel 9:24-27, is a sign of God’s judgment against the nation, and his removal of his Spirit from among them, as he promised he would do.
The kings of Daniel 2, and the image of Nebuchadnezzar have been fulfilled, at A.D. 70, as Christ said (Luke 21:22). We have also proven that the seventy weeks of Daniel chapter nine have been fulfilled, which is the sole basis and purpose of the seven-year tribulation period in the future. God is finished dealing with any ‘Israel of the flesh’, and is not going to give them another opportunity at some future date, as they were but a shadow of Christ’s ‘heavenly kingdom’. All men must be saved by Jesus Christ, as he said in John 14:16. Therefore, there is no future seven year tribulation period.
The Abomination of Desolation
Daniel 11 is an important chapter, as well, because it shows the prophecy of chapter nine in greater detail, so we can see more clearly all of the activities and kings involved with the Seventy Weeks. Inherent in this historical outlay is the Abomination of Desolation. This abomination is a part of Daniel’s Seventy Weeks, and the two cannot be separated. In fact, we can deduce from Daniel 9:27 that the abomination of desolation is to be found in Daniel’s last seven-year period.
Many teach that this “abomination of desolation” is a man. Are we to understand this as being the Anti-Christ? It cannot be, for a number of reasons. One major reason is that the term “Antichrist,” as being the title for a certain person, is unbiblical. John, in fact, identifies ‘anti-Christ’ as a thing, not a man (I John 4:3). Specifically addressing, no doubt, the common misconception that the term “Anti-Christ” refers to any one person, John declares that there “are many antichrists” (I John 2:18), and that antichrist is anyone “that denieth the Father and the Son” (I John 2:22).
We also know that “Anti-Christ” is not the abomination of desolation, according to numerous Scriptures: In Daniel 11:31, we read, “…and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate;” Daniel 12:11 says, “..the abomination of desolation set up.;” Mark 13:14 states, “But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation… standing where it ought not…” All of these verses name the abomination using terms that are translated as being gender neutral, describing the abomination as an ‘it’, and not a ‘he’. In fact, clarifying what this abomination is, we read in Daniel 8:13, in the context of the taking away of the daily sacrifice – which is consistent with the term ‘abomination of desolation’, “How long shall be the vision concerning… the transgression of desolation..?”
It is important to note here that the abomination is a transgression accomplishing something. This is made clear by Daniel 11:31, which claims that “they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.” This implies that something is accomplishing desolation. The very abomination is making something desolate. What, in reference to our texts, is made desolate? Daniel 9:26 refers specifically to desolations of the city and the sanctuary. Christ, when speaking to the chief priests and Pharisees, told them, “behold, your house is left unto you desolate” (Matt 23:38). This is an interesting declaration, in reference to when this abomination of Daniel 9 & 11 actually occurred, as Christ specifically reveals the time in which this was to take place, which we will see shortly.
Seeing the gender neutral references to the abomination that maketh desolate, many turn to II Thessalonians 2:3, which seemingly describes it as a man. But is the son of perdition / man of sin the same as the ‘transgression of desolation’? If not, what is it this “man of sin who will set himself up” as being a God? Again, thanks to Daniel chapter 11, we can see a more complete exposure of the Seventy Weeks, and we can tell who is the son of perdition.
Daniel 11:31 reads, “and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.” Who is they? We know that it is not the abomination itself, for the it of Mark 13 referred to as the abomination cannot set itself. Somebody must have set this abomination, which we have seen is not a man. In Daniel 11:36, with the same context of the abomination being set up, we have mention of a king. Who is this king? It is not the abomination, that is for sure. This king, however, is the one that is identified as being the one to “exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god” in verse 36, who shall “prosper” till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.”
Remembering that the particular significance that the word determined possesses, in reference to the desolation of A.D. 70, and the direct correlation between this ‘man’, and the desolation of the city and sanctuary itself (as opposed to one who had perished a few years prior, in Nero), we can deduce that this king is directly related to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70, which he must be, according to the context and chronology of Scripture. Matthew 24, in connection with Luke 21, shows that “when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation is nigh.” We have seen the significance of this in relation to the abomination, but this also pinpoints the son of perdition as being, most likely, the one who led the armies into Jerusalem, and placed the abomination that maketh desolate, while magnifying himself above every god. Therefore, knowing that Christ emphatically declared the fulfillment of these events as being within that generation (we know, in hindsight, that it is specifically A.D. 70 – Matthew 24:34), this ‘king’ must be Titus, who fulfills all of the Biblical requirement of this man, including the time-frame of his appearance. Were we left to such deduction and theorizing (which all Futurists are, of course, by the very nature of speculation regarding events not yet taken place), we might simply rest upon our inability to actually pin-point these events historically. History, however, does substantiate this theory as Josephus claims that, upon taking the temple, the Romans worshipped Titus and declared him to be a god (See Wars, VI, VI, 1). The Romans, of all peoples, were polytheists, and, as we saw with the declaration towards Herod’s deity (Acts 12:22), gladly deified those whom they considered great and mighty men. To declare that the Romans did not deify Titus, at this point, is an untenable position.
Now that we have identified the ‘man of sin’ of relation to the ‘determined indignation’ let’s go back and identify the abomination that maketh desolate. We know that all content contained in Daniel’s seventy weeks has been fulfilled (Luke 21:22). This includes the king, as well as the abomination that maketh desolate (Matthew 24:34)! God has completed his work with the former nation of Israel (Matthew 21:43; Romans 9:6), and has forsaken any man-made house for his tabernacle, but now inhabits the body of every believer. Knowing this, we must remember that the abomination of desolation stands in the temple of God. God having shown us that there will never again be any such building, and that the body of the believer is now God’s temple, we know we must look to the past to answer this question.
The ‘indignation’ determined that must be accomplished, which is mentioned in relation to the ‘king’, is the same indignation that will be poured upon ‘the desolate’ of Daniel 9. This is the Daniel 11 account of the abomination that is placed, and the king who exalts himself are both parts of the same event: “the end of the war (where) desolations are determined” (Daniel 9:26).
Therefore, trusting the clear words of Christ, and not denying their fulfillment in that generation, we look at the desolation of Jerusalem, in A.D. 70, for the answer to this question. Doing so, and not manufacturing a way out of the emphatic words of Christ, we can clearly identify the abomination that maketh desolate. Matthew 24:15 reads that the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place or, in other words, the sanctuary of Herod’s temple in A.D. 70. Daniel 11:31 tells us that the abomination was placed by the army that Luke 21:20 tells us were compassed around Jerusalem. This would be the Roman army that placed the abomination that maketh desolate in the ‘sanctuary of strength’. History identifies that the Roman army, once inside the temple walls, placed the golden images of the Roman eagle all around the temple area, and even, it is stated, inside its walls. In the Book, History of the Christian Church, p. 398, Schaff states, quoting Josephus from Wars of the Jews, VI, VI, 1; “The Romans planted their eagles on the shapeless ruins, over against the eastern gate, offered their sacrifices to them, and proclaimed Titus Imperator with the greatest acclamations of Joy.”
He finishes his thought by writing, “Thus was fulfilled the prophecy concerning the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.” Does the Bible anywhere support the idea of the Roman eagles as being the ‘abomination that maketh desolate’? In the account of Matthew 24:28, Jesus Christ, upon describing the scene in A.D. 70, including the abomination, states, “For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.” In Daniel 9:27, the same event is described, and it is stated, “and for the overspreading of abomination he shall make it (city and sanctuary) desolate.” Interestingly, the Hebrew word that describes the abomination as “overspreading” is used only once in the entire Testament, and is defined as being, “an edge or extremity; specifically of a bird or army; a wing..” So the abomination is overspread like a wing… possibly the very wings of the Roman ensigns that filled the house of God. Did the Holy Spirit choose this specific word for possibly this specific description? Perhaps, and perhaps not. At any rate, the placing of this abomination, as we have seen, clearly refers to A.D. 70, and not some future ‘tribulation period’. This is substantiated by Christ’s plain declaration that the prophecies of Daniel’s seventy weeks would be fulfilled in their lifetime. Matthew 23:38, as we saw, shows the prophecy of Christ that the house would be desolated.. all of which was to occur, according to Christ, to that generation (Matt. 23:36; 24:34), as we know it did. Therefore, the Abomination of Desolation was placed in A.D. 70 by Titus, who allowed it to be placed, and himself to be worshipped as God.
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Thanks Todd so much. Not only do I appreciate this article, but the great work you continue to do at your site also. God Bless!
I have wondered about Jesus mention of the seventy times seven weeks. Your comments there are insightfull. Excellent treatment of the 70 weeks prophecy. Just think, if JN Darby had have seen and grasped what you have written here, there would be no Dispensationalism. AJ
Date: 29 Nov 2003
What I dont understand is the 490 years. Is this to be understood literally or not. Could someone please make sense of this? Paul Little plittle @ agrowingfamily.org
Date: 06 Dec 2003
The ‘Seventy Weeks” or 490 years of Daniel’s prophecy is devided as follows. Sixty nine weeks” or 483 years from Cyrus gave the command for the Jews to return and rebuild Jerusalem in 538 BC until Judaea offically bacame a part of the Roman province of Syria in 55 BC. This was the beginning of the “Fourth Kingdom” during which the Messiah was to come. The first half of the 70th week or 3.5 years was from the 15th year of Tiberius 29 AD to 33 AD. This is the period that Jesus preached and declared the new covenant until he was “cut off”. The final half of the 70th week or 3.5 years was from Cestius entered the temple on October 28, 67 AD until The Second Coming of Christ on May 10, 71 AD. The war was actually from 67-74 and not 66-73. Jerusalem and the temple was actually destroyed in 71 AD and not 70 AD.
Date: 18 Feb 2004
So, are you saying the second coming has already happened? What about the christians being caught up in the sky to be with the Lord?
Date: 15 Mar 2004
this explanation is not the only one. I am not knowledgable enough in this to go into it much myself, but by simply looking around this site you can find out what is meant. For instance, the gentleman above believes the 70 weeks began in 538bc, and, I assume, that there is a gap of a little while until Chirst came and then started the last 7 years. (Forgive me if I am misrepresenting this) However, another view, which you will find all over this site and other preterist sites, is that the 70 weeks (weeks of years) began with the Artaxerxes decree in 457bc. That would actually lead one to 3.5 years after the crucifixion (490 years later), when the gospel was freed to go to non-jews. It fits perfectly with the time reference given in Daniel as well as with the purposes for the vision in Daniel: “that he would understand.” The view deserves serious attention. As far as the Second Coming, yes, Preterists believe that has already happened. Before you call them crazy (I say them simply because I am not completely persuaded of any of these views yet, to be dogmatic. However, I have found a great deal to be lacking with the Futurist view and lean more towards atleast a partial preterist view) take some time to study literary styles of the Old Testament, apocalyptic language used in the Bible, etc. Just try to avoid the people that scream heresy on either side and try to read your Bible for yourself.I have found a great deal of validity in much of the preterist position so far. Personally, for so long I just assumed that the futurist view WAS the Christian view. It was/is popular and is taught by a huge number of Christians today. You will learn that it was not taught in its present form until the last 200 years or so. While that may be true, that certainly does not make a case either way. A solid case can only be made through and by scripture. Therefore, I would encourage you to take everything you hear with a grain of salt and test everything with scripture. If something does not make sense, that’s ok. Just keep seeking truth and don’t simply accept anyone else “neat little systems” without testing them critically. Sorry for rambling on…
Date: 15 Mar 2004
one more note about this…(from the guy who just wrote that last one). The popular view of the Futurist today is that after the 69 weeks, when the Jews rejected Jesus, there was inserted a gap or parenthesis. That gap is an indeterminate amount of time in which the “church” is here. This gap was not forseen. The rapture will then take the church away, ending this gap and shortly thereafter the final 7 weeks will resume. This is basically a pretrib futurist view. Now then, my point is that I believe the 70 weeks need be concurrent without a gap for the sake of the prophecy. If they are not, then it can hardly be assumed that the prophecy would have helped Daniel actually understand anything. Now, I know there are arguements surrounding this, and I don’t mean to answer then here. I am simply suggesting that the 70 weeks should be seriously considered as having to be concurrent. I generally hear arguements against this from pretrib’s who must have a gap or else there system falls. However, before I simply agree to anything they say, I must take some things into account. They generally claim quite boldly that they are the ones who interpret scripture literally. If I have to hear then say that one more time I am going to choke. Either there are various interpretations of what literal means or some people are not taking the word literal, literally. This same group will say that the 70 weeks are now over 2000 years, that the 1000 years spoken of in Revelation is an actual 1000 years (though the use of such numbers including 1000 are very often figurative; that is, are we to assume that God owns no more than the cattle on 1000 hills? PS. 50:10). However, they then see that the time frame references in Matthew 24 and Revelation are NOT meant to be understood in the most obvious way. And then they interpret locusts as attack helicopters and but then have no problem suggesting that a future battle for the world will take place on horse back and with bows and arrows…but some say the bows and arrows are guns and missles and who knows what. Of course, again, not each and every pretribber believes each of these things, but if you read some Lindsey, LaHaye and Tommy Ice, you will see what I mean. My only point is that you should make sure you are persuaded of a doctrine that you believe the Bible says clearly and not in what someone speaks or writes persuasively. To believe someone, in this case, because they claim to be the only people who interpret scripture literally, would be ridiculous. Especially given the interesting ideas of literalness. In this case I wish that pretrib’s would let go of that arguement and simply argue for there own interpretation WITHIN each context. Anyways, rambling again…but maybe this will help someone.
Date: 17 Mar 2004
all other commentaries were doing guess games even the prince of expository teaching G Campbell Morgan done so. the only end daniel was talking about is the end of that period. Again jesus spoke about it in Mathew 24. the words of people standing here will see this, is sufficient time limits and precise time table to give us the true interpretation of this prophecy. this view in my estimate is the most accurate one. Pastor Jamal Bishara
Date: 18 Apr 2004
If the Nation of Israel was destroyed, what in God’s name is that in Palestine today? Why has she arisen from the dust? What is her purpose today?
Date: 13 May 2004
The first comment above gives the first half of the 70th week ending in 33 A.D. and the second half of the 70th week beginning in 67 A.D. leaving a GAP of 34 years in the middle of the week! Every preterist view requires this gap (which they do not admit is possible) or a major cram job to fit the death of Christ and the destruction of Jerusalem in one “week”. The dispensational view, though requiring a longer gap, at least has a reasonable explanation for it, and the text (Dan 9) does imply a separation between the 69th and 70th weeks.
Date: 20 May 2004
The author of the article doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Never once does he show how the 490 years gets him to A.D.70! That’s because preterists can’t defend their view with the math. No matter how hard they try, preterists cannot make the numbers add up! It doesn’t matter where you start the time line, everyone agrees that the Lord’s death and the destruction of the city (Jerusalem) occurs after the 69th week. Preterists say they both occurred in the 70th week. But these two events occurred nearly 40 years apart! Thus they must either admit a gap in the middle of the week (which they say cannot be) or else cram 40 years into seven! Neither option will do. Therefore preterism is clearly a false theory. Incidentally, every other non-dispensational view has this same insurmountable problem. The dispensational view sees a divinely appointed gap or postponement between the 69th and 70th weeks. They gladly admit it, and provide sound explanations for it.
Date: 11 Sep 2004
An Israel established again in 1949 does not mean the Israel of God. If they go ahead and build a thrid temple and start sacrificing, will God accept those sacrifices now, even though Jesus did away with them? Of course not. What was destroyed was the sacrificial system and the old covenant age. Israel was JUDGED. That the country establishes itself once again does not necessarily mean anything.
Date: 26 Nov 2005
I think you got something here! Thanks
Date: 11 Dec 2005
To the writer of the initial article:
You certainly have some good points about the fulfillments in A.D. 70. But how do you know that A.D. 70 was not simply one fulfillment of Daniel and Jesus’ words? How do you know that there isn’t a more complete and ultimate fulfillment still in the future? Many prophecies in the Bible are fulfilled through multiple events. For example, Isaiah 7:14 had one fulfillment through Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz, but of course a much greater and more perfect fulfillment in Jesus. Another example is the that the sufferring servant passages are fulfilled in three ways, through Israel the nation, through the role of the persecuted prophet, and ultimately through Jesus. Would you dogmatically say that the A.D. 70 events are the ultimate and final fulfillment of Daniel and Jesus’ words? If you do, you just might be too narrow in your understanding of biblical prophecy. After all isn’t there a very real sense in which some of the six things predicted in Daniel 9:24 have further need for fulfillment?
Also, might this explain why the preterist seventieth week doesn’t work? The ultimate and more perfect fulfillment may still be in the future.
Glenn – Louisville
Date: 11 Dec 2005
By the way to all of you who have been reading this page, try the decree of Artaxerxes in 444B.C. given to Nehemiah to rebuild Jerusalem from its ruins as your starting point for the seventy weeks. Neh. 2 fits perfectly with Dan. 9:25. Remember when your calculating, to compensate for the fact that the Jewish calendar had only 360 days. If your no good with math, I’ll help you out. 444 B.C. plus 483 is A.D. 39, but you have to subtract 7 years to compensate for the Jewish calendar. That lands you on about A.D. 32. We of course know that this is very close to the time of the triumphal entry and the cross. This math is just too perfect. Any other view falls short. The other views on this page do not compensate for the 360 day calendar which would have been Daniel’s frame of reference.
Glenn – Louisville
Date: 11 Dec 2005
Also, if you read Daniel 9:26 carefully, it doesn’t necessitate that the temple be destroyed in the seventieth week. It just says that it will happen after the 69th week. If one allows for a break in the 69th and 70th week between Christ’s first and second coming (which, by the way, the break between Christ’s comings is a surprise in itself), then it could be truly said that Herod’s temple was destroyed after the 69th week but not during the 70th. Could not the temple that stands in the 70th week be different from Herod’s? So again I ask, might the events of A.D. 70 be a partial fulfillment, but not a perfect and complete fulfillment?
What if we are not looking at a “yes” or “no” question regarding fulfillment? But rather a “yes” and “YES!” “Yes” to A.D. 70, but “YES!” to a future fulfillment where sin is completely abolished, prophecy is truly sealed up, and Christ kingdom is established forever.
Glenn – Louisville
Date: 12 Jan 2006
Why do everyone assume that the Jewish calendar is 360 days? Our calendar is 354 days. However, every two to three years an extra month is added to align the festivals with the agricultural crops. This additional month brings the average year to 365 1/4 days.
Date: 12 Feb 2006
For Scriptural support of the partial fulfillment theory that I advocate above, How bout the entire OT? Fulfillment that occurs in stages is a MAJOR theme in the OT. One would upon first hearing many OT prophecies assume that every aspect of a particular prophecy would be fulfilled at relatively the same time. However, in the passages below, one can see that these prophecies spoke of both Christ’s first coming and second coming in the same breath:
2 Sam. 7:13-16
Isa. 9:1-7; 11:1-11; 52:13-59:21; 61:1-11(cf. Lk. 4:16-19)
Ps. 2:7-8(cf. Acts 13:33); 22:1-32
You can see that there is plenty of biblical support for understanding Dan. 9:24-27 as a partial fulfillment. In fact, I believe the burden of proof is on the one who would claim that this biblical pattern is not present in the prophecy of Daniel.
With reference to the “generation” comment of Jesus in his Olivet Discourse, you have to at least admit that the term can be vague. It could mean a generation of 30 or 40 years, but it could also mean generation in God’s plan. Consider how the biblical writers refered to their own generation as living in the “last days” (Heb. 1:1-4). Are we not still in the last days?
Also, I understand that the Jewish calendar year is 353, 354, and 355 days. But in biblical prophecy a year is 360 days long. This is especially evident in Revelation where John refers to the same time period as 3 1/2 years and 1,260 days (Rev. 12:6,14).
Date: 27 Feb 2006
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your website and seeing the scriptures from the point-of-view of preterist. But, there was a scriptural interpretation that I found very thought provoking. It pertained to the question that Peter asked the Messiah in Matthew 18:22. That passage of scripture is translated to read simply “…but seventy times seven.” or “seventy-seven times.” But preterism translates Matthew 18:22 as “until seventy-seven times”, refering to the inevitable destruction of the Temple! Where are the sources or references to support that eye-opening translation of Matt 18:22? Could you expeditiously post a response to your website, so I can further understand that point-of-view. It’s a view that I have yet to hear or see before. Thank you!
Date: 04 Sep 2006
I would like to understand what Jesus meant in Matthew 24 when He said, He is coming on the clouds of the sky… and every eye shall see Him.
If all of this was fulfilled “in that generation” how can I clearly explain that this is not to be a yet future event? Thank you.